Waterboarding
What I’m getting at is… Does that justify our government waterboarding a man 183 times after he had already confessed? I’m not sympathetic towards the guilty… what I am saying is… just kill him if you’re going to do all of that.
The problem with all of this is that we lay the claim that we are a nation of laws. We cannot justify torture in our society or we become a tyranny.
The video below is an example of what is like to be waterboarded. The “Shock Jock” host of the “Man Cow Show”, who is republican and a staunch advosary of the Obama administration, said that waterboarding is not torture. He decides to prove it by doing it to himself. Lets watch…
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Now… you tell me… What are your views on torture now?
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May 23, 2009, 12:23 pmNeiman Catley says:
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May 23, 2009, 3:34 pmGamal Jones says:
War is war. I don't necessarily agree with the treatment of POWs. But if the Treaty of Versailles and Genevia Code are not going to be followed by anyone then it is gonna be a No Holds Barred type of game. It is not like the U.N. takes a police force and investigates all POW camps to see if interrogation rules are being met.
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May 23, 2009, 4:17 pmNeiman Catley says:
Yeah, but doesn't that, and I risk sounding like a movie, make you no better than the adversary that you are trying to vanquish?Battle not with monsterslest ye become a monsterand if you gaze into the abyssthe abyss gazes into you. —Friedrich Nietzsche
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May 23, 2009, 5:39 pmJay Syrmopoulos says:
I hear ya Neim and I love your idealism… but here is a quote that seemingly applies to this discussion. I am not advocating a position just provoking thought…"Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night, only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."-George Orwell
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May 23, 2009, 7:37 pmNeiman Catley says:
Nice counter quote. I will reply in full later. sleepy
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May 23, 2009, 9:35 am